In the Court of the Crimson King: King Crimson at 50 review – a rollicking workplace comedy
This unflinching portrait of the prog rock band is like an episode of The Office but with huge drum kits, grizzled roadies and rapturous fans
King Crimson are a band usually described as prog rock, although metal, industrial, jazz, experimental and, my favourite, math rock have all been accurate-enough labels over their 50-plus-year career. They are also a bit of an acquired taste, and many of those who’ve acquired it are incredibly, zealously, maybe sometimes even a little dysfunctionally passionate, to the point where, say, Grateful Dead fans might counsel them to chill out. But the great thing about this thoughtful, intimate portrait of them is that one doesn’t even need to like their music all that much to find this film by director Toby Amies utterly enthralling. Somehow it ends up being about a lot more than just King Crimson.
In one way, for instance, this is a workplace comedy, like The Office but with huge drum kits, grizzled roadies and rapturous fans who are almost all late-middle aged white guys (except for the 20% or so who aren’t, such as the young Norwegian nun who finds parallels with religious music in King Crimson’s sound). The fan commitment is not all that surprising given the passion of the band themselves, especially the group’s leader and one constant over the years, guitarist Robert Fripp. A bespectacled, often severely suited figure with a West Country accent, Fripp explains here how he still practices for over 45 hours a week, and that doesn’t count performing. Severe and exacting, he’s clearly something of a musical martinet. Yet that perfectionism is also inspiring too: it explains perhaps why the many musicians we meet here have stayed with him, or quarrelled with him and stopped talking to him altogether, but still speak of him with awe. As well as workplace comedy, this film also acts as an elegy for fallen friends, especially Bill Rieflin, the charming and dry-witted American multi-instrumentalist, who is clearly beloved by Fripp and his co-conspirators. Rieflin is first met bantering with director Amies, coyly asking if Amies would like to watch him undress. (It’s not a real offer, apparently, just an “attempt to understand the boundaries of their relationship”.) Rieflin, it turns out, has cancer and dies towards the end of the film, which Amies dedicates to him. But there’s nothing sentimental about this documentary, which looks at people with the clear, unflinching gaze of a portraitist.
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Post subject: [2022/11/11 and 12/02] In The Court Of The Crimson King: King Crimson At 50, standard and limited edition (Panegyric)
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Wow, I loved it.
I didn't read reviews on Amazon. I went in with an open mind, but admit I was predisposed to enjoy it.
Yup, I did.
I've always thought Fripp is on the autism spectrum, and I still think so.
Bruford afforded some insight. He and Fripp tended to be at odds with each other, but he was pretty objective in his comments.
It's not really a full career documentary- it is subtitled "King Crimson at 50", after all. Reiflin gets a fair amount of coverage because he was one of Fripp's best friends, and because he was pretty good at dropping good quotes. And he died while the film was in progress.
I can't speak about the pacing, but I was never bored. Considering it was commissioned and financed by Fripp/DGM and produced by his manager, David Singleton, I thought it was pretty open about showing Fripp is a jerk.
Lots of fun extras if you get the deluxe set. The one hour Tring performance is excellent.
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Post subject: [2022/11/11 and 12/02] In The Court Of The Crimson King: King Crimson At 50, standard and limited edition (Panegyric)
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I finally got a copy of the deluxe edition and watched the first blu-ray over the weekend. Knowing in advance not to expect a history of the band, I absolutely loved the documentary. Fripp is a certifiable nutcase, and I couldn't imagine working with him (not that my drumming skills would ever be good enough for him), but it's a blast to listen to him and wonder how many musicians have been driven bonkers by him over the past 50 years. If anyone's been on the fence about this because of negative reviews of the documentary, I highly recommend it as long as you manage your expectations.
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I finally watched this over the weekend. As stated before, definitely not a history of the band. It covers some of the history, but it's more a combo of some stuff about the current band and a look into Fripp. I really enjoyed it. As richman666 said, Fripp seems like he'd be a nightmare to work with, but some of his thought process fascinates me while other parts make me want to stay away. And full credit to Toby Amies - there's a scene where Fripp is talking about J. G. Bennett (I believe), and it's clearly an emotional thing for him, and Amies lets it play out in real time, which makes it much more powerful that the usual cut that happens in those types of scenes. Especially given Fripp's generally matter-of-fact persona.
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I saw the movie at the movies and also saw a clip of the movie when I saw Fripp live at the City Winery NYC which wasn’t a concert but a Q&A session. Bought this box and it’s a good one for fans of KC.
Don’t miss the YouTube video of Daryl Hall interviewing and playing with Fripp on Daryl’s House. I did not know they were such good friends that they actually lived together for a time in NYC.
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