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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:12 am |
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Jason Michael wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Michael wrote: No, I'm including the X-Men. Okay, then I vote for X-Men. Shock!!! Especially them Dark Phoenix issues right near the end of the decade.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:47 am |
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Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Michael wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Michael wrote: No, I'm including the X-Men. Okay, then I vote for X-Men. Shock!!! Especially them Dark Phoenix issues right near the end of the decade. Never heard of them. Sounds très intriguing.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:48 am |
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Ocean Doot wrote: So the question is "Best Marvel run of the 1970s besides X-Men." I think so. It would win and I think it's interesting to find out what else is upnthere.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:48 am |
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:05 am |
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TS Garp wrote: Uncanny X-Men #134 is considered the first appearance of Dark Phoenix. It had an on sale date of March 18th, 1980. Also, since "Other" is currently winning so I have to question the alleged supremacy of this obscure 'Dark Phoenix' storyline.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 12:38 pm |
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Beachy wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Michael wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Michael wrote: No, I'm including the X-Men. Okay, then I vote for X-Men. Shock!!! Especially them Dark Phoenix issues right near the end of the decade. Well… as the decade actually ends in 1980, you're right. Yes, there it is! I was expecting someone to say it. 
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:14 pm |
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And ironically the SAME PERSON that said Dark Phoenix wasn't in the 70s....Beachy, man, what gives?
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:22 pm |
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Ocean Doot wrote: So the question is "Best Marvel run of the 1970s besides X-Men." Yes. Wasn't that clear in the question? I think it was clear.
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Li'l Jay
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:42 pm |
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Evans wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: So the question is "Best Marvel run of the 1970s besides X-Men." Yes. Wasn't that clear in the question? I think it was clear. I think the description, combined with there being no X-Men choice in a long list of choices, combined with the fact that Phoenix (non-dark) appeared for a very long run of Claremontian comics, indicates an intent to find out what would be your other choice.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:45 pm |
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:10 pm |
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Ocean Doot wrote: So the question is "Best Marvel run of the 1970s besides X-Men." Jason Michael wrote: No Evans wrote: Yes. Well now I don't know WHAT to think.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:12 pm |
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Beachy wrote: Evans wrote: And ironically the SAME PERSON that said Dark Phoenix wasn't in the 70s....Beachy, man, what gives? Ah, but don't mistake the 70s for a decade; they're 1970–1979. It's true, I have often made the mistake of thinking a decade was a ten-year period.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:11 pm |
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Ocean Doot wrote: Beachy wrote: Evans wrote: And ironically the SAME PERSON that said Dark Phoenix wasn't in the 70s....Beachy, man, what gives? Ah, but don't mistake the 70s for a decade; they're 1970–1979. It's true, I have often made the mistake of thinking a decade was a ten-year period. Well… I'll concede that even 1963–1972 could be called a decade, but I won't agree that 1980 is in the 70's.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:22 pm |
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Beachy wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Beachy wrote: Evans wrote: And ironically the SAME PERSON that said Dark Phoenix wasn't in the 70s....Beachy, man, what gives? Ah, but don't mistake the 70s for a decade; they're 1970–1979. It's true, I have often made the mistake of thinking a decade was a ten-year period. Well… I'll concede that even 1963–1972 could be called a decade, but I won't agree that 1980 is in the 70's. Oh, I wouldn't agree with that either. But I do agree that the overall "Phoenix" saga starts much earlier, so most of it was published in the '70s. But it is true that the "Dark Phoenix" turn didn't happen until the last few chapters, which were all published in 1980. Still, it makes sense to think of it as a 1970s storyline. We talk about "Watchmen" as having been published in 1986, even though it wasn't finished until 1987. 'Tis simply the nature of the serialized funnybook.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:24 pm |
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Li'l Jay wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: So the question is "Best Marvel run of the 1970s besides X-Men." I think so. It would win and I think it's interesting to find out what else is upnthere. In that case, I must side with the majority and say "Other."
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:14 pm |
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Ocean Doot wrote: Beachy wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Beachy wrote: Evans wrote: And ironically the SAME PERSON that said Dark Phoenix wasn't in the 70s....Beachy, man, what gives? Ah, but don't mistake the 70s for a decade; they're 1970–1979. It's true, I have often made the mistake of thinking a decade was a ten-year period. Well… I'll concede that even 1963–1972 could be called a decade, but I won't agree that 1980 is in the 70's. Oh, I wouldn't agree with that either. But I do agree that the overall "Phoenix" saga starts much earlier, so most of it was published in the '70s. But it is true that the "Dark Phoenix" turn didn't happen until the last few chapters, which were all published in 1980. Still, it makes sense to think of it as a 1970s storyline. We talk about "Watchmen" as having been published in 1986, even though it wasn't finished until 1987. 'Tis simply the nature of the serialized funnybook. Well, what’s it matter? The Dark Phoenix Saga is kind of a hot mess. It had potential when it was actually Jean Grey grappling with her new powers, but nope—turns out it’s the Phoenix Force all along doing Jean cosplay, like this cosmic entity got bored at a galactic Comic-Con and decided to LARP as Jean for kicks. And this great entity lets Mastermind, a sleazy illusionist, who historically can barely trick girl scouts into giving him free cookies, dupe it into a Ms. Peel-inspired Black Queen getup—a cosplay on top of her previous cosplay—because, of course, Mr. Claremont, a galaxy-eating force must have a secret leather fetish. The New X-Men bumble their way through like interns on a bad team-building retreat, fighting the Shi’ar Empire’s Gladiator and his third-rate Legion of Super-Heroes knockoffs, like the Shi’ar photocopied DC’s heroes and forgot to add personality. And these Shi’ar, already established as blatant intellectual property thieves, have further ripped their entire empire off a rejected Star Trek B-plot, and they strut in like bureaucrats, demanding Phoenix's head like they wield the cosmic authority supreme. Why listen to these feathered quacks? They’re just interstellar Karens with stolen Kree tech. Oh, and we also meet Scott’s deadbeat dad, Corsair, an encounter that curses us with even more Summers family backstory, which eventually serves up a third Summers brother. Bah—big stakes, sloppy execution, and a “tragic” ending that Marvel just retcons away.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:51 pm |
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Beachy wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Beachy wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Beachy wrote: Evans wrote: And ironically the SAME PERSON that said Dark Phoenix wasn't in the 70s....Beachy, man, what gives? Ah, but don't mistake the 70s for a decade; they're 1970–1979. It's true, I have often made the mistake of thinking a decade was a ten-year period. Well… I'll concede that even 1963–1972 could be called a decade, but I won't agree that 1980 is in the 70's. Oh, I wouldn't agree with that either. But I do agree that the overall "Phoenix" saga starts much earlier, so most of it was published in the '70s. But it is true that the "Dark Phoenix" turn didn't happen until the last few chapters, which were all published in 1980. Still, it makes sense to think of it as a 1970s storyline. We talk about "Watchmen" as having been published in 1986, even though it wasn't finished until 1987. 'Tis simply the nature of the serialized funnybook. Well, what’s it matter? The Dark Phoenix Saga is kind of a hot mess. It had potential when it was actually Jean Grey grappling with her new powers, but nope—turns out it’s the Phoenix Force all along doing Jean cosplay, like this cosmic entity got bored at a galactic Comic-Con and decided to LARP as Jean for kicks. That wasn't true in the 1970s (i.e., 1975 to 1984).
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 9:47 am |
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No love for the "Master of Kung Fu" saga, huh? I can see how people wouldn't consider it a "best," but it WAS pretty distinctive. Kind of an ambitious failure.
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 10:23 am |
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Wouldn't call it a failure...it lasted over 100 issues,after all. It even became a movie. It lasted longer than Howard the Duck (and the Howard the Duck movie was much worse than the Master of Kung Fu movie).
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:25 pm |
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It's really good. But this one was about the best
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Post subject: Best Marvel Run of the Seventies but NOT Dark Phoenix Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:44 pm |
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That meddlin kid wrote: No love for the "Master of Kung Fu" saga, huh? I can see how people wouldn't consider it a "best," but it WAS pretty distinctive. Kind of an ambitious failure. Just yesterday, I managed to get the first three Master of King Fu omnibus volumes for a decent (below original cover price) price. So I'm finally going to get to reading the early Shang-Chi stories. In the 70s, I was all about the superheroes but I couldn't afford to buy everything, and the martial arts stuff and Conan and Star Wars books really never made the cut for me. But, really, that's the beauty of my going back to collect everything Bronze Age now: to see what I missed.
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